Pacific Glaciers Redux

Message from Willis Eschenbach

I see that Charles the Moderator has launched the report of fears of the lack of the Puncak Jaya glacier right here on WUWT. Under is a photograph of the present state of the glacier, in Papua New Guinea, north of Australia.

My first thought to studying the favored article, in fact, was … earlier than crying pricey pricey, how previous is that this endangered tropical glacier?

It took some time to seek out the unique examine. I needed to undergo SciHub as a result of this factor continues to be paywall. The examine mentions whole age solely as soon as, with out another remark of any type:

Glaciers close to Puncak Jaya are remnants of glaciers which have existed for five,000 years (37, 38)

Agree, 5 thousand years. And by going to the underlying reference (37) I discover

There isn’t a proof of ice on any of the mountains of New Guinea between about 7,000 and 5,000 BP years, and really the restrict of the bushes of Mt. Wilhelm was as much as 200 m above its current place, from eight,300 to five,000 BP years in the past.

So, this text, which is portrayed as horrific information that a technique or one other reveals that local weather alarmists are proper about their impending fantasized Thermageddon ™, truly proves that the Pacific tropics should not not but as scorching because it was 5 to seven thousand years in the past. It doesn’t appear that scary that approach, is it?

However wait … there’s extra. A associated query is: how lengthy has the Puncak Jaya glacier been melting? From the examine once more …

Equally, glaciers close to Puncak Jaya have been receding because the finish of the final Neoglacial interval ~ 1850 CE.

Thus, melting and shrinking of the Puncak Jaya glacier did NOT begin with the trendy improve in CO2, which occurred primarily because the early 1900s. As an alternative, the forged iron started from a pure fluctuation of temperature round 1850. And guess what?

Scientists have no idea why the "most up-to-date Neoglacial interval" has ended ~ 1850 CE fairly than 1750 CE or 1950 CE … however they’re more than pleased to inform us what the local weather will appear like in 2100 .

I have to love satisfaction, not less than …

Better of all on a stupendous wet morning, the hearth season in California is over, the forest through which I reside is joyful, what don’t you want?

w.

PS – As at all times, I ask that if you remark, you quote the precise phrases you might be referring to in order that we are able to all perceive what and who you might be speaking about.

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